Laminating Photopolymer

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Alan Sailer
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Laminating Photopolymer

Post by Alan Sailer »

I have made five holograms so far and things getting better. I expanded the beam more and have doubled the exposure time so that nearly
all the film is getting exposed. Bubbles/dust are the remaining issue.

I ordered a cheap ionizing gun to see if that helps. I'd like to find a cheap laminator and try that also. I know people are using these but I would like to find a part number to use as a starting point. My glass is small, about 12cm square and is about 3mm thick.

I did a search on laminating on the forum but found no suggested models.

Thanks for any help.

Cheers.
Alan Sailer
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Re: Laminating Photopolymer

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Thanks. I bought one. I also found an old powered laminator that I want to try (after disabling the heater).

I am worried about cranking a laminator while trying un-peel and feed in the film...only have two hands.

Cheers.
Joe Farina
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Re: Laminating Photopolymer

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It's not difficult. This is the laminator I use, and it works well. One thing which may be helpful is to attach it to a solid support, so you don't have to worry about it sliding around while doing the cranking. I removed the bottom piece of metal and screwed it down to a wooden board, varnished with shellac (to make dust removal easier). When the laminator is not in use (I attach film in a laminar flow area), I keep it covered with plastic wrap (a box or enclosure also works fine) to keep the dust off. Dust is always a concern. The laminating should be done in an area which has a minimal amount of dust floating around. Bubbles are usually a much more noticeable problem, and they should be mostly eliminated (or at least greatly reduced) with this laminator and a little practice.
Alan Sailer
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Re: Laminating Photopolymer

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Thanks much. I'm sure all this stuff will help reduce bubbles/dust. I look forward to finding how much...

Cheers.
BobH
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Re: Laminating Photopolymer

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I use an old pouch laminator I mentioned here a long time ago. Still works. The key to no bubbles is clean glass! Use a high intensity lamp to examine the plates and you'll see the problem. If you don't have HEPA filtered air, clean the glass well, store it in a clean box, and mount the film quickly. A good laminator does nothing for a dirty plate.

I use a motor driven one with a carrier sheet to support the glass plates I mount the film onto. A hinge is made for the film with scotch tape, polymer side down. I hold the film up with one hand, peel the cover sheet with the other hand and throw it away, then start the motor. It's nice to have the automatic feed.
Alan Sailer
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Re: Laminating Photopolymer

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So I finally tried several methods to get better lamination. A small homemade laminar
flow hood (using a HEPA filter). A ionizing blow gun and a hand cranked two roller laminator.

This combination made for much better results. Several of the films had no bubbles. My
garage is a dusty mess so expecting perfection is a fools goal. But great improvement.

I bought a powered laminator but I will not use it. The ability to control the speed with the hand
laminator was very useful. The one problem I found difficult to deal with was the tape
I used to peel off the film. It tried to stick to everything and it was a pain.

Cheers.
Joe Farina
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Re: Laminating Photopolymer

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Good, thanks for the update. What kind of ionizing blow gun did you use? Does it need a separate compressor? By the way, regarding dust detection on a glass surface, I've found that shining a UV LED flashlight at a glancing angle to the plate (in the dark) will show up dust particles very clearly.
Alan Sailer
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Re: Laminating Photopolymer

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This is the ionizer.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256577533352

Is the UV light safe for photopolymer? Or do you just keep it away from the film?

Cheers.
Joe Farina
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Re: Laminating Photopolymer

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Thanks for the link. I didn't know UV was involved. I would keep UV light well away from any kind of unexposed film (silver, polymer, or DCG).
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